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February 3, 2007
UK: "Sleepwalking With The Enemy"
A brilliant article appears in today's Telegraph, entitled Sleepwalking With The Enemy, written by Ruth Dudley Edwards, dealing with the "pernicious threat" of Islamism. This is the first time I have seen any mention in mainstream British press of the debate between Daniel Pipes and Ken Livingstone, which took place on January 20 in London.
Ms Edwards presents a cutting analysis of how Islamism can destroy Britain. It is the most accurate description of Britain's (and the West's) current predicament, faced with Islamists who are already here, whom Ms Edwards describes as the "Barbarians inside the gates".
This is an extract:
As early as 1988, when the Thatcher government showed itself too nervous to arrest Muslims screaming publicly for the murder of Salman Rushdie, MPs such as Roy Hattersley - who called for the suppression of the paperback of The Satanic Verses - showed us all that Muslim votes mattered more than principle. The Labour MP Ann Cryer, who has spoken out valiantly for years about such issues as forced marriages and honour killings, has been almost a lone voice in Parliament in warning of the dark side of the Muslim community and has been consistently threatened and abused by their self-appointed spokesmen.Read it all HERE.As a British civil servant in the 1970s, I learnt how easily a policy can become so institutionalised that it is irreversible, how quickly empires are built and how hard it is to destroy them. Once, politicians decided that diversity and multiculturalism were to be embraced, the Sir Humphreys of central and local government turned the policy into a process and gave us our present nightmare of fractured cities and competing minorities. Official policy fuels extremism.
In the Policy Exchange/Populus poll published last week, 76 per cent of British Muslims thought it wrong for a council to ban an advertisement for a Christmas carol service, yet the council preferred to cater to the prejudices of the lunatic fringe.
It took mass murder in London on 7/7 to open up ever so gingerly the debate that politicians and bureaucrats had stifled. Even now, there is little frankness. Who in authority is saying, for instance, that Christian faith schools pose no problem but Islamic schools do? The Policy Exchange/Populus poll showed that 51 per cent of British Muslims believe a Muslim woman may not marry a non-Muslim, 43 per cent that she cannot marry without the consent of her guardian and 46 per cent say that a Muslim male may have four wives but a Muslim female only one husband. Do we really want children being taught that at school? And why is no one saying that it is child abuse to put a girl behind a veil?
Posted by Giraldus Cambrensis at February 3, 2007 7:10 AM
Comments
I agree, it is a superb analysis. but contrast this with a grubby news story on page 2 of the same edition of the DT.
the headline says it all "Muslim unrest as terror police carry out new raids" I thought i'd picked up al guardian by mistake.
btw al guardian have an ISLAMOPHONIC podcast at guardian unlimited it trots out the usual victimhood bilge in a self styled "breezy format"
some of it is hilarious, such as the q&a session
as to whether it is haram to read whilst having a crap, no, i am not making it up, go to the site. but make it quick,I think the editors will pull it, given the number of hostile comments from even left/liberal guardianistas. Hopefully the tide will turn and the islamofascists will be driven back, lets hope it doesn't take a pearl harbour to arouse the majority.
Keep up your good work, I view this as the internet equivalent of samitzdat, and given the orwellian nightmare of self-censorship and appeasement by mainstream media and the BBC we need you.
Regards
Richard Scorner
Posted by: rick
at February 3, 2007 2:43 PM
I think it's time for genuine liberals to pluck up the courage to abandon their instinct for appeasement and start asserting genuine liberal principles in the UK.
Posted by: keypointist
at February 3, 2007 4:26 PM
We are slowly overhauling the problem: two years ago an article like this wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the MSM - now there's something similar most days. Patience - we're getting there.
Posted by: Sir Henry Morgan
at February 4, 2007 5:51 AM
The Muslim religion seems to be the opposite of everything a Leftie stands for and yet you can see them ignoring it and condemning anyone who criticises it as racist, intolerant etc.etc.
Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.
George Orwell.
Posted by: bluebell
at February 4, 2007 8:23 AM
Giraldus
Here's the only known BBC news report of the Pipes/Livingstone debate. Unfortunately, it's in Arabic.
Are you able to get it translated and posted? Would be interesting to see how it compares with what everyone else (not the MSM in UK, obviously - because they didn't) reported.
This might turn out to be a big stick to thrash Auntie with. You never know.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/arabic/press/newsid_6284000/6284993.stm
Posted by: Sir Henry Morgan
at February 4, 2007 6:32 PM
Thanks Henry
Sadly we don't run to Arabic translations.
However, here is a transcript of what Daniel Pipes actually said, though it does not feature the other three speakers, nor the responses with the floor:
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/4254
Posted by: Giraldus Cambrensis
at February 5, 2007 9:59 AM
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