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October 7, 2006

France: Schoolgirl Stoned In Playground For Not Observing Ramadan

With a hat-tip to reader Peter C, a truly horrific sign of the times comes from Lyon in the south of France, where a schoolgirl was stoned by Muslim students on Wednesday (October 4), for not following Ramadan. France-Echos reports on the incident, which is described in today's edition of Le Progres a paper serving the Lyon, Villeurbanne and Caluire-et-Cuire region.

This is a translation of the France-Echos report:

A schoolgirl was stoned on Wednesday in playground

For non-observance of Ramadan

According to information given by Michèle Vianès, from the Regards de Femmes organization:

The information that I gave Thursday from our cafe Regards de Femmes is in Le Progres today.

A schoolgirl of Jean Mermoz college in Lyon's eighth arrondissement (postal district) was pelted with stones on Wednesday morning in the playground because she ate a snack. The argument that the incident stemmed from the non-observance of Ramadan is confirmed by the Lyon prosecutor's office, based on initial results from its investigation.

Azzedine Gaci, president of the CRCM (Regional Council for the Muslim Religion) , states that "if the facts are proven, they are unacceptable". He deplores the ignorance of the pupils, who should be taught the Koran at school, and who are unaware that "women who are not feeling well" * are exempted from observing Ramadan.

Without other commentaries for today, I will keep you updated

Michèle Vianès

The front cover of Le Progres (here, in pdf, but not yet on its online site) states:

Ramadan fast: A college girl attacked

The attack happened in a recreation moment in the playground of Jean-Mermoz (Lyon 8th). Pupils of the third grade threw stones at an adolescent. The principal of the college said it was a simple incident, not premeditated. But for its side, the Prosecutor's Office of Lyon confirmed in the first stages of an inquiry that this this act could have been linked to the victim not observing the ramadan fast. The incident has provoked strong emotion in the education community.

The story continues on page 7 of the printed edition, which I do not have access to at present. Hopefully on Monday, today's edition will be online and I will update this story.

* Means literally "indisposed", or "out of sorts", and probably is a euphemism for her "time of the month".

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Posted by Giraldus Cambrensis at October 7, 2006 8:12 PM

Comments

This is simply perfectly normal Islamic behaviour : group violence towards a supposed Koranic felon at the drop of a hat. It was not premeditated and it, like much muslim behaviour, was not organised by some third party but represents a true and spontaneous eruption of muslim or Arab nomad dark age violence as provoked by that Islamic Mein Kampf: the Koran.

When will the west realise that Muslims need no one to provoke them into violence as they already have the Koran and it has done this quite well for 1400 yrs? The Muslim pirates who depraded the Mediterranean for near 1200 years always were said to be "pirates" with no central control and hence not the fault of the local islamic leaders. But if you read the Koran any violence towards nonmuslims or supposedly felonious muslims is perfectly aceptable and especially if there is secondary gain, ie loot.

The only problem here is that it happened in that protoIslamic state France. Much more to come here I am sure.

Posted by: MisIslamist [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 7, 2006 9:45 PM

I love the "women who are not feeling well"... The girl had her periods !
I guess French Muslim girls should just have an insigna, like a tampon or something, on their sleeve when they have their periods, to make sure that they don't get stoned by mistake, if they happen to eat a piece of chocolate or something !

Posted by: brubos [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 8, 2006 6:57 PM

Hi,

Looking into this story, I found this is not the first stoning in France. Ghofrane Haddaoui, a Tunisian who refused to go out with a Muslim man had been stoned by a gang in Marseilles in 2004.

(mentioned on Western Resistance as well: http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/001084.html)

These might be little children, but they will grow up to be big children and then adults who think of stoning as a perfectly acceptable way of dealing with what they don't like.

Esther

Posted by: Esther [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 8, 2006 7:18 PM

Hi Esther

Yes, the tragic case of Ghofrane Haddaoui - stoned to death on industrial wasteland, for the "crime" of not wanting to go out with a young Muslim male. Her horrific murder (her mother could not recognise her face after the stoning) became a rallying point for the group Ni Putes Ni Soumises (Neither Whores Nor Submissives), as the disgusting treatment meted out to her - a beautiful, liberated and Westernised woman - symbolised the contradictory nature of North African Muslims. Because she was not veiled, she showed her beauty, and was "desirable". And because her independence meant that her desirablity was not attainable to some scummy Muslim male, she was stoned to death as if she was an "adulterer".

So many Muslim males have this same mindset when it comes to women who are "desirable" yet not "available" - in places like Malmo in Sweden there has been an epidemic of rape against non-Muslim women.

Psychologists could have a field day, examining the twisted sexual identity of the average Muslim man.

Giraldus

Posted by: Giraldus Cambrensis [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 8, 2006 9:05 PM

microphallic insecurity seems to be the driving force here.
The desperate need for virgins, the horror of another man even seeing yr wife's legs etc...all that points out to dreadful sexual insecurity and an inbuilt inferiority complex, no doubt aided and abetted by the track record of their prophet who boasted of his ability to service his wives(who actually would believe anyone who said that? Even that is fraught with insecurity so it would appear that sexual inadeqacy/insecurity forms an inherent part of the muslim male character.)

Let us face it: Muslims males are high pressured semen vehicles pushed beyond their capacity to endure by the slip of an ankle etc and when finally given the chance probably premature anyway, No wonder they are so insecure and so uptight!! Unfortunately any pity is removed by their too easy tendency towards violence.

Posted by: MisIslamist [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 8, 2006 9:55 PM

Eurabia has arrived. It's time for repatriation. See this essay (not mine):

http://librabunda.blogspot.com/2006/10/r-is-for-repatriation-west-is-on.html

Posted by: Always On Watch [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 9, 2006 8:17 PM

Tyrannical Ramadhan as part of Islamic Terrorism

(By Prof. Dr. Muhammad Shamsaddin MEGALOMMATIS)

The societies where Ramadhan is tyrannically imposed are the real laboratories of the criminal sheikhs who promote the bogus-Islamic Terror.

In a previous article, entitled ?Abolish your fake Ramadhan, stupid!?, we developed in a summarizing way the various aspects of the distressing reality of today?s Ramadhan as mostly practiced by the analphabetic, uncultured and uneducated masses throughout the Arabic speaking tyrannies of the Middle East. In this article we analyze a key point for the West's fight against Islamic Terror, explaining that the societies where Ramadhan is tyrannically imposed are the real laboratories of the criminal sheikhs who promote the bogus-Islamic Terror.

Tyrannically imposed Ramadhan is part of the Islamic Terror

To some extent a non- Muslim, Western, reader could argue that the collapse of the Islamic Civilization, the decomposition of Islam and its transfiguration into an unspiritual, absolutely material, and uncultured form of purposeless and imitational religious practices do not and cannot possibly interest the West.

This would be a lethal mistake, and it would testify to Western ignorance about the situation that prevails within Islam. In fact, Western statesmen, politicians, academia, intellectuals, military, diplomats and strategists still now. 29 October 205, continue perceiving Islamic Terrorism and Extremism only through its manifestation as a bomb attack in Iraq and in Israel, as an event like September 11 in New York, July 7 in London or March 11 in Madrid.

This bears evidence to their genuine and sinister inability to deal with the event, and it is true that the real development of the facts is out of control.

The portentous reality is that Islamic Terrorism is the last phase of a long philosophical ? theological ? ideological ? political ? social ? behavioral development that took place within the Islamic world over the past 10 centuries, and worsened because of the colonial and ?post-colonial? intervention, linked with misinterpreted Islamic eschatology and millenarism, and promoted by the barbaric and uneducated, local bogus-friends of the West, the various comical pseudo-kings and presidents of the Middle East, it threatens to blow up the peaceful existence of the world and the intellectual, spiritual and material progress made over the past five centuries.

Few realize in the West that the Islamic Extremist Movement ? with its underground network patterned over more than a thousand years ? has its own goals that are unknown to the aforementioned comical pseudo-kings and presidents, since they are simple servants of the murderous bogus-Islamic sheikhs, who hidden from the public eye (no one knows their participation in the existing network of Islamic Terrorism) manage developments at will. The ominous goals of these Satanic Sheikhs, who have progressively usurped the name of Islam over hundreds of years, consist in the assumed Islamization of the entire world (it would not be a real one because they and their theological ? ideological system are totally anti-Islamic), which would be an Absolute Return to the Stone Age and an Utter Reign of Darkness ? totally undeserved to the Mankind. The goals may seem today to an average reader, living in London, in Moscow, in Istanbul, in Rome, in Berlin, in Paris, in Delhi, in Mexico, in Tokyo, in Beijing and in Washington as a farfetched dream, and a faraway threat as if some termites attempting to endanger the Pyramid of Kheops. But they are not! These goals will be accepted as imminently threatening indeed, when the Middle Eastern domino of the aforementioned comical pseudo-kings and presidents collapses. Then it will be plainly understood that they were real puppets of the Satanic Sheikhs and not of the West, as they shamelessly portray themselves as seen by their peoples when dealing with the gullible Western diplomats.

Bogus-Islamic, tyrannized societies: the Islamic Terror?s laboratories

Yet, there is a domain that, if thoroughly observed, presented to Western audience, and understood, will convince anyone allover the world of the seriousness of the situation, and of the imperative need of the civilized countries of the world to immediately interfere and irreversibly crash the murderous antihuman plans of the Satanic Sheikhs of Islamic Extremism. This domain is the so-called ?Islamic? societies of the Middle East. What matters in this regard is the bogus-religious totalitarianism, the tyrannical extremism imposed throughout this vast area in the name of these sheikhs? false Islam.

The cruel and antihuman tyranny enforced upon hundreds of millions of Middle Eastern populations, the undisputed monocracy of the fake ?Islam? of these religious gangsters, is not a remote and isolated phenomenon that needs no great part of Western concern. It is the real and active, effervescent and dynamic laboratory of the murderous sheikhs of Hatred. It is the first step, phase, layer of the Terror and Crime exported ?abroad?, to September 11 New York, July 7 London or March 11 Madrid, etc. If the phenomenon is not tackled there first, is not uprooted there first, is not obliterated irrevocably there, its solution will be impossible anywhere else.

Intervening and eradicating the bogus-Islamic Terror, as fabricated by the criminal sheikhs of the Middle East, is not a duty of the Western countries towards the tyrannized masses of these countries. Western intervention will function as liberation indeed for these populations, but it will primarily be the only measure of self-protection, self-defense and self-preservation the Civilized World has to take.

Before the Fire burns out America, Europe, Turkey, Israel, India, Russia and the rest of the world, the Middle Eastern Inferno has to be extinguished.

The Tyrannical and Execrable Face of the bogus-Ramadhan imposed by the Extremist Sheikhs throughout the Middle East

Before specifying aspects of the tyrannical practice of the Terror-version Ramadhan, it will be useful to focalize on the imposition itself. Every tyranny is ?imposed? on masses that are unwilling to accept it, and are unenthusiastic to be forced to survive under its conditions and terms.

Over whom is the Terror-version Ramadhan imposed?

This question is key to effective understanding of the Middle Eastern societies. For the Western reader, tyranny in the Middle East is mostly political, and for some it is also viewed as ?religious?. This is a disastrous mistake in the effort of understanding.

Tyranny in the terrorized Middle East is mainly Social Tyranny. It certainly takes the political ? ideological and the religious aspects, with patriarchs being unable to protect their flock otherwise but to ?admit? that they are not tyrannized, and with events being uncommented and passed under silence among employees of different religious faith within the same company. Of course, when Christians are with Christians, they employ completely different mood, expression and attitude against the terrorism exercised over them 24 x 7 in an inhuman way by the fanaticized barbaric masses of the Satanic bogus-Islamic sheikhs; but they cannot afford to use the same terms in their job place, except they work in a company owned by a Christian entrepreneur.

This is only the minor aspect (and it is religious and social) of the unprecedented tyranny that characterizes the Middle East, without being attested and perceived by Western tourists, who gullibly and idiotically pay their money to the local puppets (presidents and kings) of the Satanic bogus-Islamic sheikhs, facilitating therefore the work of the latter.

The major aspect (that is exclusively social) of the Terror-version ?Islamic? tyranny is practiced against and over Muslims. Vast masses of Muslims do not believe in this false ?Islam? of the terrorist sheikhs, and many have no interest in practicing a religion whatsoever. Their main interest is how to find a way to live better, to enjoy this life and the possibilities it offers, to spend their time with what they find worthy and attractive, not what an ignorant and quasi-analphabet sheikh dares suggest. How can one evaluate the real number of the Middle Eastern Muslims, who are genuinely indifferent to their own religion in the same way hundreds of millions of Christians and Jews in America and Europe are indifferent to Christianity and Judaism? It varies from country to country, but it consists always in a significant portion of the Muslim population. One cannot fix even approximate figures without risking errors, and it actually figures matter not. What matters are the tyranny that is imposed on them, the social enforcement they face and they detest, their perspective to live as free and dignified human being that masters its own life as he/she wants ? not as a terrorist pseudo-Islamic sheikh orders and a puppet ? king/president imposes.

What may be a surprise for ?specialists? in the West is that the masses of non-religious Muslims, who aspire to a secular society after being horrendously tyrannized in the most brutal and humiliating way, belong to middle, lower middle, and lower classes. They do not belong to the upper middle, and the upper classes, with representatives of which the idiotic diplomats, military, statesmen and politicians of the West are pleased to ?speak? (this sort of interlocution is deceitful and the Western become easily the victims of misinformation).

They may represent 20% to 50% of the Muslim population of a country (as we said their number varies from country to country), but they are forced to succumb to rules imposed by the ?top? and followed by the people around them with such fanaticism that they dare not speak out their ideas. They are extremely intimidated, and the beginning of a discussion with them goes slowly. When the find out that their interlocutor shares their ideas, they befriend with him/her, express themselves freely, but again never in public.
They may smoke a cigarette in an isolated spot during Ramadhan or drink a bottle of beer when unobserved or go after a street prostitute (who wears ?hedjab?/headscarf of course!), but thy never pretend to do so and they never insist that they are right in doing so!

Many Western tourists may see uncovered (without ?hedjab?) Muslim ladies in the streets of a city, but they never see her insisting in a public discussion or even at a family meeting that her way is correct, and that it is absurd and stupid for a Muslim lady to wear ?hedjab? in the year 2005! If doing so, she would be a castigated outcast of the tyrannical society ? laboratory of Islamic Terror.

These people are the correct interlocutor of the West in the years ahead, and a strong help granted to these elements at all levels would be a most embarrassing threat fro the murderous sheikhs of the Islamic Terror.

Aspects of the tyrannical, Terror-version Ramadhan

Here we will enumerate the tyrannical practices of Ramadhan in the totalitarian societies of the Middle East that are the current laboratories of the bogus-Islamic sheikhs of Terror. We are certainly not exhaustive, simply indicative.

1. You want to go to a cafeteria and drink coffee and tea during the day. Simply you cannot, because they do not serve anybody because of Ramadhan!

2. Even worse as discrimination is the case of some cafeterias that do not serve customers outside but inside, under the ridiculous pretext that these customers would be a ?temptation? for those fasting in Ramadhan!

3. You want to go to a restaurant and eat during the day. Simply you cannot, because they do not cook food, except in time to serve it as iftar (fast breaking meal after the sunset). Here, we do not refer to tourist restaurants that do not charge prices affordable for the average citizen, and they do not consist anyhow in a significant portion of the restaurants available.

4. You want to buy something you need at 4 p.m. Simply you cannot, because shops close for Ramadhan iftar, so that all people go home, eat with family, and then come back to work place again.

5. It is 5 p.m. and you are in a tram or in the metro going somewhere; you are unlucky because the driver will stop it for at least 15 minutes to break fasting and have iftar! Taxi drivers do the same, and one should read Empress Farah?s book about the last Shah of Iran and his adventures when sick in Aswan, where inhuman monsters refused to drive the ailing Shah because they wished to break fasting, probably cursing ? quite islamically (!) ? him to die!

6. Secluded tourist places are a good trick for the terrorist sheikhs to get two things done at once: getting money from gullible tourists and pursuing the tyrannical enforcement of their Satanic bogus-Islamic ideas on the local societies. However, in all the cities, towns and villages alcoholic drinks are virtually prohibited, except for the five stars hotels! Making the alcoholic drinks look as something related to rich people and upper social classes is the way of the Terror?s sheikhs and their puppets and accomplices (kings and presidents) to form the nucleus of the Terrorist Society that will export terror and Satanic Hatred allover the world. KFC and Mc Donald?s do not serve beer all the yearlong.

7. Few bars are tolerated to serve alcoholic drinks in some countries; they look miserable and filthy, and the reason is that they do not get permission for innovation because the respective department is ruled by followers of the murderous sheikhs of Terror, who want to prohibit alcohol whatsoever. Yet, these bars are closed during this sort of fake Ramadhan of Terror.

Yet, if you have had the chance to ask a top Islamic Philosopher like Ibn Rushd or Mohyieldin Ibn al Arabi what the Supreme Maxim of Islam is, he would have answered you immediately:

- There is no compulsion in Religion.

All this makes the need for Secular Society in the Middle East immediate. It will be either as Kemal Ataturk did it in Turkey or as Ossama Bin Laden did it in New York.

And this is the way to properly evaluate for whom the Middle East's kings and presidents work: those who say they need time for the changes work for the Islamic Terror?s agenda. Secular Middle East is for today. Tomorrow there will be a war in America, Europe, Turkey, Israel, India and elsewhere; it will be too late!

Posted by: Megalommatis [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 10, 2006 10:35 AM

Posted by: Giraldus Cambrensis at October 8, 2006 9:05 PM

"Let us face it: Muslims males are high pressured semen vehicles pushed beyond their capacity to endure by the slip of an ankle etc and when finally given the chance probably premature anyway, No wonder they are so insecure and so uptight!! Unfortunately any pity is removed by their too easy tendency towards violence."

I have worked a few years in an 'adult entertainment' store and i can assure you: 90% of my muslim clientele wanted porn with virgins (the very idea!), delaysprays or rapedrugs (and when i told them we do not sell those i often met with anger and refusal).

I have tried many times but found that even the most basic sexual education is completely lost on these people, as they have a firmly entrenched mindset that states women are not to enjoy sex in any way...

Posted by: elegy [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2006 1:28 PM

my apology, the quote was posted by mis islamist, not by giraldus cambrensis

Posted by: elegy [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2006 1:30 PM

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